Halloween 2021 - Dinner Plus Drinks #97

SPEAKER_02 0:00

Hey Bridget. Hey, Nick. What do you call a podcast episode full of Halloween fun, but hosted by two people stressed out about an event they're hosting in six hours? What? You call it this episode. But here we are. And how are we going to deal with that stress? Octoberfest beer.

SPEAKER_01 0:32

Alright, everybody. We're we're uh enjoy that music. We're uh twitchy, we're we're a little stressed, but we're here. Cracking it. Cracking it. Whoa. Whoa, that was aggressive.

SPEAKER_00 0:44

Well, got it. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 0:46

Yep. Cheers. Pro's. Prost. We're still on that. I listened to Christmas music today, so I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 0:52

We we're on the uh the tail end of the Oktoberfest season. It's Halloween as y'all are listening to this. Unless we Happy Halloween! Get way at way ahead of ourselves, which I don't think we will. Um it's unlikely. But boo. Happy Halloween, everybody. How are ya? Remember, last year we had the crazy true crime Halloween edition of this podcast. Yeah, we did. We got a lot of really great feedback about it, and we wanted to do another one.

SPEAKER_01 1:19

Yeah, but it's gonna be a little different uh because our lives are a little different this year, today. So we have lots of crime instead of one bit of crime, we have a whole bunch of crime.

SPEAKER_02 1:28

Yes, it was the husband that did it.

SPEAKER_00 1:30

I know, I was thinking about that story, but so for that episode, like I spent days at the library, like pulling up newspapers. Which you can't even do anymore. Where to go, Emily? Thanks. So, like the library's under construction. We were we have an event tonight, so we're you know, we had to adjust. So we found tidbits of many crime stories that all happened on Halloween.

SPEAKER_02 1:51

I think this is gonna be a super fun episode. We have our Oktoberfest beer to deal with um uh our stress. Our stress, which is the great way to be an adult.

SPEAKER_01 2:01

I don't know what to say. If you're not trick-or-treating with the wine in your hand, you're doing it wrong. You are doing it wrong.

SPEAKER_02 2:07

And we also have um crime, and then we have some Halloween things at the end. It's gonna be really fun. So slightly different format to the normal podcast, but lots of fun. And um, we had to have one less Oktoberfest beer, right?

SPEAKER_00 2:24

Yeah, we did. And I feel like I need to go backwards because this always happens. I just like blurred it in here that I listened to Christmas music this morning. Um sometimes when I'm a little cranky and I just need to get out of it, uh, and it's October, it's not, it's a little too early for Christmas music for some people. I put on music. I like doing a lot of holiday stuff for work. You know, we've made recipes ahead of time, things that we're planning out. And so I'm in my head, it's always farther down, you know, it's way past Halloween already. Like it's Thanksgiving, it's almost Christmas. So I just put on some holiday tunes today to help me out.

SPEAKER_02 2:58

Simona's real into Santa books right now. Oh, she's brilliant. Grabbed them all and she's she's just Santa. Uh she does think Santa is bringing her a bounce house for Christmas. I think I told you this because we had the like, should we? We were talking about it, yeah. Because Shannon was thinking about it. And uh, so she's all into Christmas, so you're not the only one. I know, man. I love Christmas. I think your stress level is probably a little higher than Simona's. I mean, she's worried. I hope it is. Am I gonna be in Lucy's room or Link's room? Whose room am I gonna be in?

SPEAKER_00 3:22

Today she was in Lucy's room. Yeah, but I thought Link, yeah, whatever. You never know what's going on. Link was dressed up as Blippy today. Aww. Sorry, shout out, Aaron. That was good work. Good work, Aaron. Okay, that is our friend. How do we know it's not Brian that did the work? Sorry, Brian, great job. I assumed the mom did that. That was bad of me.

SPEAKER_02 3:41

You know what I really appreciate about you, Brian? I don't think you listen, but I'm just gonna tell you, you always bring a six-pack of beer that I haven't had in like two years, but really like. And it's always a mixed six-pack, which is the way to do it. Oh, that is nice. Every party he comes over to, he has a mixed six-pack of beer. I love Great Lakes Brewing Company. Oh, they're out of Cleveland. Um, we used to sell their beer at the store. I really like it, never sold. Yeah. So, like, honestly, I drink a lot of stuff that needs to move from the store or I want to try for the store. Yes. So if it's not in the store, I don't always try it. Brian, you are a G.

SPEAKER_00 4:19

Oh boy, Brian. And your kid had a great costume. So we love the holidays. Here we are. So we're doing true crime today, but we have a few bits of exciting news.

SPEAKER_02 4:29

This one, I'm very I want, I want to know. Okay. Bridget, your hair looks luxurious.

SPEAKER_00 4:34

Oh, yeah. Do you like the fro? It's because I have my own shower at my own house. We have water again, everybody that may have been following my journey. Um, we had to do quite an extensive amount of dollar spending um on an upgrade to our well system at our house.

SPEAKER_02 4:52

You know, Beyonce would say, let me, let me upgrade you, upgrade you, upgrade you. We did upgraded.

SPEAKER_00 4:57

Get upgraded. So we have a better water pressure now, and many thousands of dollars later, we have water. So that's all I'm saying on that.

SPEAKER_02 5:06

Good water pressure is worth its weight in gold, I believe you said. I think that's exactly what I said. I was thinking of like, would you rather pay thousands of dollars for bread or thousands of dollars for water pressure? If you bought several thousand dollars worth of bread, you you couldn't eat it all at once. So your choices would be give it away to people, uh-huh. Uh, and you'd have that inner joy of knowing other people ate. You could also freeze it. You could freeze it. Yeah. Frozen bread goes downhill. Yeah, well. So, you know, you'd have the carbs, um, some regret, maybe. Or you could have many, many years of incredible water pressure. And, you know, maybe you have a friend stay the night, maybe you have family stay over, they have to take a shower at your house, and they're like, oh my gosh, all this water pressure. Bridget has great water pressure.

SPEAKER_00 5:49

Okay, but what's worth a lot? Why are we comparing it to bread? Like, do you know someone that's a big thing?

SPEAKER_02 5:54

Well, I was thinking of like, you know, like weight and gold. I'm like, what else could you do? You know, like what else could we uh compare this against? You know, that's a weird comparison. Bread seems like one that watered a lot of bread this week. We had some facasha, uh simple. I I ate some for lunch the other day, maybe a lot. Breakfast, lunch, dinner. Our chef at Lake Junior Country Meets made some facasha. So good. I had some today.

SPEAKER_00 6:17

I like bread. Okay, well, I like water. Um, also, we feel that we need to keep following up on the exciting Curder Burger news. Yes. We had a uh listener holler, Amanda.

unknown 6:32

Hello.

SPEAKER_00 6:32

Uh, reach out to us. So thank you. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 6:35

She sent me very much, Amanda.

SPEAKER_00 6:37

The best note, and it says, Hi, my name is Amanda, and I had a Curd Burger. To which I said, I need to know everything. So Amanda uh was lovely enough to get all of her co-workers a burgers. Oh, wow. But by Amanda, I mean her husband. Here's the here's how the day goes. Here's how the day goes. Learned about Curd Burger at 9 a.m. Called my husband with a request for four burgers for me and my work gals. 10 a.m. Culver's opens. Burgers delivered, ranch. Check. Ooh. Feedback. Would I order it again? Most likely not. Did I feel special? Kind of. Did I feel like I need to learn how to eat a burger in public with class and also nap at 10:30? Yes.

SPEAKER_02 7:18

The nap, yes.

SPEAKER_00 7:19

Which I should have asked, did you eat this burger at 10 a.m.? Can I get it hot? Sounds like yes. So she said it was a fun changeup for the day, but not needed on a regular basis. And I proceeded to text a vomiting emoji back emoji back and was like, but wasn't it just incredible amounts of cheese? And this was the best description to me and the biggest turnoff. The curd was the size of a half a deck of cards. It's a lot of curd. Well, so anyway, uh, sounds like it was a lot. And she even shared the text with her husband. Amanda's husband, great job.

SPEAKER_02 7:54

So Curder burger sounds like a lot of cheese still. Have you ever had like the seared cheese and a cast iron skillet thing? Yeah, and it's just like a wad of cheese. Ah, Sarah really likes it. I feel like she would have liked the Curder Burger. Yes, you should have gotten it. I should have a horrible husband. I love you, honey. I'm so sorry.

SPEAKER_00 8:11

What I've I've been thinking about this Curder burger, as you can tell, I love arencini. And so I just keep comparing it to that, but there's texture inside of that, not just like rubbery cheese.

SPEAKER_02 8:22

We try to do these fried mashed potato balls that were like, you were all in and like, yeah, it's gonna be like aroncini. And I was like, yeah, you're right. It's gonna be good. And it wasn't.

SPEAKER_00 8:31

Gelatinous is a good word.

SPEAKER_02 8:34

If you're ever gonna try and do fried mashed potato balls, make the driest, most terrible mashed potatoes you could possibly make to start off with.

SPEAKER_00 8:43

Uh, I don't even know if that would have solved it, do you think? I think it would have. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 8:47

Well, we didn't continue trying because it's don't add more you know, like good mashed potatoes have like cream, heavy cream, and whole milk in them. Yeah. And butter.

SPEAKER_00 8:57

That don't do that, right?

SPEAKER_02 8:58

Don't do that.

SPEAKER_00 8:59

Wait, was the cream the problem? I forgot.

SPEAKER_02 9:01

Yeah. Okay. Because the cream just like, as soon as you put the egg to get the uh breading to adhere to it. It just coagulates. The egg just ate that cream.

SPEAKER_00 9:10

How about anything that has to be described as coagulates is bad.

SPEAKER_02 9:14

Unless you're talking about blood sausage, then you want some coagulation.

SPEAKER_00 9:18

This is the second time someone has brought up blood sausage today. Is it because it's Halloween? Bridget, I want crime. That wasn't even a joke, guys. That was just the best segue. I want crime. How much crime, Nick? Crime, crime, crime. Okay, we're gonna talk about crime. Let's talk about crime. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 9:37

So you one of the things you had on here um that I thought was really interesting is you had a link to something about why we're so interested in crime.

SPEAKER_00 9:46

Oh, okay. So you have to listen a little bit to a moose boosh. Um, I don't even know where to go, you guys. I have um, are you interested? Like, do you watch true crime or not really? Mostly Sarah?

SPEAKER_02 9:58

Not really, because I'm kind of like, mm, people are aft up. Yeah, okay. So in my research I also get terrible nightmares. So interest to Sarah? I don't know. I have this series of recurring nightmares where like somebody's breaking in the house. I have a gun to shoot them and stop them from, you know, doing terrible things. Yeah, this is and I just like freeze and can't move. You know, like in a dream where you can't move.

SPEAKER_00 10:21

I don't I rarely remember my dreams, which is a gift. I love remembering my dreams.

SPEAKER_02 10:27

I had this series of three dreams the other night where it was all the same set of friends, and one was really good, one was really bad, and one was worse. And I was like, I need to talk to a therapist about this.

SPEAKER_00 10:38

If there are any like, what are they, dream readers? Is that a thing? Yeah. Do you know anybody people listening? Speak me up, y'all. Because I agree, like, there is something to be said for people who don't remember their dreams, and then there's something to be said who, like, for people who have recurring dreams. I need to know. And no, I don't want to read a book about it, so just give me the cliff notes, okay?

SPEAKER_02 10:56

So yeah, I I just I I come up with all these things and I get scared, and then I pee the bed, and it's well that's you just made it weird.

SPEAKER_00 11:04

Um, but where I was going with this is in my research.

SPEAKER_02 11:07

Oh, that's not where we're going with that.

SPEAKER_00 11:08

I was not going to talk about peeing the bed because I I don't do that regularly. Congratulations. Yeah, regularly. Regularly. Not since college, at least.

SPEAKER_02 11:16

You just made that weird.

SPEAKER_00 11:18

Okay. Um in my research, I found that women, surprise, surprise, are 70% more likely to be listening to listening to. I was specifically referring to podcasts, but I imagine listening to, watching, etc., more interested in true crime because women, sadly, feel that it is often them that are being attacked. It is true. And one of the reasons, attacked, murdered, etc.

SPEAKER_02 11:42

It is only What's the et cetera part of attacked and murdered?

SPEAKER_00 11:45

I don't know. Raped? Attacked could be like many things. Punched, kicked. Okay, this is gonna I I'm sorry, I just jumped right into that and even give you a trigger warning. Um, my point is um the reason I find I think that I like true crime so much, and there was there's like the article that you're referring to had 12 reasons. It is linked in the show notes for a moose boosh. Um somewhere in the back of your brain, you're listening to it to like prepare, right? Like, oh well, I know a murderer often sneaks in through the window, so I will close my windows. That's smart. Close your windows, but I don't get murdered. I like, but I don't, because I live here. Uh so anyway, it's really interesting. There is a book about what's it called? Why do we love serial killers or something?

SPEAKER_02 12:30

Yeah, I think that's what's yeah.

SPEAKER_00 12:31

Yes, that like I would like to read. I hope I actually do read it because I often buy books and don't read them. Um, so anyway, lots of fun things. Check out a moose boosh for like some insight on why we all love serial killers.

SPEAKER_02 12:43

So for this episode, yes, we have a number of crime stories that you're gonna pitch me, and I'm gonna give you I'm gonna pitch you some so How much am I terrified?

SPEAKER_00 12:54

Last year, and if you haven't listened, you should go all the way back to a year ago, we did a true crime story that was local. So it was in Burlington, just up the road, and yeah, totally it was the husband.

SPEAKER_02 13:04

Spoiler. Totally was the husband. Um in our I went into it very open-minded because there's three suspects, I think.

SPEAKER_01 13:12

Yeah, well, two, and like the third one was pretty loose.

SPEAKER_02 13:14

Yeah, so there's there's two suspects, the husband, um, like a coworker. Yeah, I don't remember. Kind of acquaintance, and then like she just wanted to bugger off and disappear. Yeah. I count her as like the third suspect.

SPEAKER_00 13:27

Oh, no, I thought there was like one other totally random, like one dirty. Yeah, like someone said there was an eyewitness of a car once, maybe.

SPEAKER_02 13:34

And so I was like, okay, you know, let's be open to this. You know, men have rights too. Husbands aren't always the killers. Uh but in Burlington, Wisconsin. And then I was like, wait, wait, wait, wait. He bought a new mattress, dug a bunch of big holes in the backyard, and nobody investigated.

SPEAKER_00 13:51

There was blood stains on the mattress? So you gotta go listen. It was fun to research. I love this stuff. Um, but also like I had never done that before, so I'm sure there are resources. I like take notes when I listen to crime podcasts now of the resources they use because I think it's fascinating. So this year, um, instead of I couldn't really I could have gone deeper diving into more local unsolved mysteries, but there's not like we don't live in a highly populated high crime area. There is one. Uh-oh. We're not doing that one. I was like, what? Yeah, there are there are some that maybe we didn't want to touch either. Uh so instead, I looked up Halloween is like could be a scary evening to some, right? So I'm like, I wonder if there are any merchants.

SPEAKER_02 14:36

I've seen Hocus Pocus. Weird stuff happens on Halloween.

SPEAKER_00 14:38

Need to rewatch that because I forget how much people refer to it.

SPEAKER_02 14:42

Remember, virgins don't light candles on Halloween.

SPEAKER_00 14:44

Is that from Hocus Pocus? Yeah. Isn't Hocus Pocus supposed to be like friendly for children?

SPEAKER_02 14:49

Oh, yeah. And it's like uh if a virgin lights a candle, the witches will come back and the dude's little sister makes fun of him for being a virgin.

SPEAKER_00 14:55

But um, I feel like you don't talk about virgins in kid-friendly movies.

SPEAKER_02 15:00

I mean, Mary was a virgin. You talk about her in C C D. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 15:04

Miracle. Oh, jeez. Okay, so instead, I wanted to learn about- I go to church.

SPEAKER_01 15:09

I'm Catholic, I'm not making fun of Mary. Nick's making a sign of the cross over here for those of you just listening and not watching us on YouTube.

SPEAKER_00 15:17

Um, I found crime that happened on Halloween, people. And I like it. Shockingly, a number of murders that happened on Halloween people.

SPEAKER_02 15:26

Do you think murder is just kind of like hang out and they're like, you know, I've been I've been really thinking about killing someone, and you know it'll be a good day for it? Halloween.

SPEAKER_00 15:34

I mean, when else like do you decide? I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 15:37

How do murderers decide when they're gonna murder? I don't know. See, I thought if you listened to crime podcasts, you would know these things, Bridget. I mean, crime podcasts aren't solving mysteries. I mean, sometimes they do.

SPEAKER_02 15:51

Oh, so what you say is it's gossip, and that's why women like it.

SPEAKER_00 15:54

It is not gossip, it is research. Ugh. And of course, like any other public medium, they get ripped apart like everyone else. Like, you said the city's they said, oh my god, it was like a city in Illinois that was so funny that they mispronounced very badly, and they got like ripped apart about it. I'm like, come on, you guys, like, can we just be funny about this? Well, Keishaw. I forget what it was, but I'll have to listen. Anyway, this first one is just to warm you guys right up into trick-or-treating. I hope you're listening to this maybe while your kids are trick-or-treating or um maybe.

SPEAKER_02 16:27

I hope you're drinking a bottle of wine and a thermos and having your AirPods in and just Yeah, yeah, thanks. Did you say thank you?

SPEAKER_00 16:36

Make sure you say thank you. There's a hilarious Instagram reel out. I'm sure there's tons of them, but I just ran across one yesterday of yeah, every mom on Halloween and she's like got an orange vest on, drinking her wine, like, oh yeah, this is an adult beverage, wink wink, and like whatever, doing it's 100% accurate. Tommy, Tommy, make sure you say thank you. Which is me all day on Halloween. Anyway, okay, as you're trick-or-treating everybody, make sure to check the candy when you get home. This is an urban myth. Okay. No, this is not an urban myth. I have no idea if it's true, but I think it's true. How would I know? I could have checked the death records of this county, right? I guess I could have done that, but I didn't. Okay. Ever check your kid's candy to see if it's been tampered with? Well, you should. Especially if it's a pixie stick. Why do you think this is a myth?

SPEAKER_02 17:27

Because it's been debunked on snopes like a gazillion times.

SPEAKER_00 17:31

How do you know this is a myth?

SPEAKER_02 17:32

Because it goes around every Halloween and I check it out because I'm like, I eat a lot of candy. Is my candy been tampered with? Somebody would like to put it on the candy.

SPEAKER_01 17:41

Oh, that? Yes. Okay, Nick. Okay, well, that's different.

SPEAKER_00 17:44

Okay, in 1974, Ronald uh gave his eight-year-old son, Timothy, a pixie stick. It was his last piece of candy for the night, which like tube of sugar, great way to end your night.

SPEAKER_02 17:56

My dad, right there.

SPEAKER_00 17:57

But it was laced with cyanide. So the kid ate the pixie stick, started vomiting, died on the way to the hospital. I'm like, I guess I just feel like not really sure how you would murder your son, but also why? And this is a tale as old as time, everybody. He had taken out life insurance policies on his kids and he was in debt. So literally, he killed his children or one child. Maybe he killed another. No, no, no, no, no. And luckily for everybody, but not poor Timothy, unfortunately, he did get the death penalty lethal injection. I feel like they should have made him drink a pixie stick. Of cyanide. Oh, that's horrible. Isn't that terrible? Okay, I was like, did this really get debunked?

SPEAKER_02 18:38

Oh god.

SPEAKER_00 18:39

Well, these are all pretty sad because they're all murders. So here's the difference is sometimes true crime is just like people are missing, and you live with the hope that maybe they're alive. Not today, everybody.

SPEAKER_02 18:50

So I'm a big Star Wars nerd fan, as y'all know. I couldn't watch Mandalorian while I was out because Simona was very little when it came out and was not sleeping at all, and was like this very vulnerable, very cryy, very sad child. Well, wow. And every time I saw The Child or Baby Yoda on Mandalorian and he made his noises, I was like, oh my god, Simona, don't hurt Simona. Like my paternal Yoda? They yes, they go after Baby Yoda. Oh, never seen it. And I was just like very it was very emotional for me. They needed a trigger warning if you're a new dad that like Don't watch Mandalorians.

SPEAKER_01 19:31

Wow. We couldn't go a whole episode without that.

SPEAKER_02 19:33

Uh if if you if you're in that thing, there should have been trigger warning for that. So I should. I will say, after being a dad, like people doing things to kids makes me so emotionally distressed.

SPEAKER_00 19:45

It is different. It is different. I can't imagine I still hear about it because in a way I feel like it's helping me protect my kid from something. Yeah, that's the psyche behind it.

SPEAKER_02 19:56

Yeah, if somebody tried to do anything with Simona, like I would just bring out the gun and freeze.

SPEAKER_01 20:02

Just like in your dream. Yeah, it's why it's such a nightmare. I don't know. I would I'm just picking it all in Nick's insecurities right now.

SPEAKER_02 20:08

I would do something to that person.

SPEAKER_00 20:10

Get back to you later on what that is.

SPEAKER_02 20:12

I have meat hooks.

SPEAKER_00 20:13

Oh my god. I just keep them in my house. I'll just run to the store, get a meat hook.

SPEAKER_02 20:18

I have a meat hook here.

unknown 20:19

Really?

SPEAKER_02 20:20

Yeah, it's useful for stuff. What? Stuff. Like when you're Do you have a body down here? Is there a body in here? Strange turn of events. Uh, interestingly enough, next week's podcast, it's gonna be just me hosting.

SPEAKER_00 20:33

It's just gonna be Nick. Happy Halloween. Weird. Okay. Here we go. I just want to say any crime that happens in the year 2000 and closer to present day, I feel is really extra scary because like that feels like my life, right? The 2000s. When you're like, oh, happened in the 70s, I'm like, that was forever ago. That's fair.

SPEAKER_02 20:57

There's no DNA.

SPEAKER_00 20:58

It is just like when you say, like, oh, this one happened in 2004, I'm like, oh shit. This could be me. So 2004, there was a group of friends, all 26 years old, three girls. They were being safe and they were staying at home handing out candy to people. Oh, good for them. They lived in Napa.

SPEAKER_02 21:17

Um such a safe community, too.

SPEAKER_00 21:20

Yes. So, you know, they three friends all wrapped up their trick-or-treating or their handing candy out to trick-or-treaters. They went to bed, thought, what a fun night. Then one of the friends who woke up to a scream. Do you know what her reaction was? And actually, this is kind of smart. I want to be mad at her, but this friend ran out to the driveway and sped away from her house in a car while her two friends got stabbed upstairs. Both 26 year old, two of the 26 year olds died. Two of the 26 year old girls died, and the one friend sped away and got away in the car. But um one of a friend of one of the victims, I it was incredible. But also I was kind of like, shh, is that your first reaction? But maybe it would be mine. She's alive. Um Spider-Flight. One of the friends, it ended up being a friend of one of the three victims, and there's no motive known, but he confessed. I don't know if it's the alive friend. I doubt it. Um, yeah, isn't that crazy? Okay, that was a weird one. But it happened on Halloween night. I hope that I forgot. No, that was 2004. That's like present day, basically. Not really.

SPEAKER_02 22:29

That was a long time ago. A lot of drugs in Napa Valley. I will say that. A lot of money, a lot of cocaine.

SPEAKER_00 22:35

Oh. So maybe these girls. I mean, it didn't say it's a good thing.

SPEAKER_02 22:38

No, I wouldn't say the girls, I'd say the murderer.

SPEAKER_00 22:40

Oh, right. Hopped up. It is incredible the amount of murders that happened just because like someone was screwed up. Don't do drugs, people.

SPEAKER_02 22:48

Oh, here's. I got one. Oh, okay. Uh woman. This just happened. It's in the news now in Mississippi. Okay. Mississippi or Alabama. One of those I shouldn't say what I was about to say. Southern. Southern states. Uh all I was going to say started with an S and ended also with an E. She's it. Uh conjunction of two words. One of those two states. She was raped and assaulted, like physical harm by uh a meth head. They were meth buddies.

SPEAKER_03 23:23

Oh no.

SPEAKER_02 23:24

And uh her brother then came over with a gun. Meth head then attacked brother. She took brother's gun, shot him uh after like she had just been raped and he was trying to kill his uh the meth head was trying to kill her brother. And she is in jail facing trial for murder of this guy. Wait, what? Mississippi baby.

SPEAKER_00 23:44

The meth head that got raped?

SPEAKER_02 23:45

No, the the well. Yeah, the the lady that got raped, everybody they she got the kit, the test, which is horrible. She had all the everything's documented. Yes, she was raped. Yes, this guy beat you up. Yes, he was doing this thing to your like trying to kill your brother. In the South, where they're like, This just tells you don't be a woman in the South. Oh my god. Yes, this is wait, when year what this is right now.

SPEAKER_01 24:10

What? Right now.

SPEAKER_00 24:12

I will say, I'm sorry, I just screamed what very loud in your ears, but I have a hard limiter on the Oh good.

unknown 24:18

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 24:20

Sometimes I forget. Okay. Um it baffles me still as I listen to all of the like uh literally at least one true crime story a day, basically, on uh my podcast. Uh, that that some of this is currently still so screwed up. Like there are still cases where like the color of your skin obviously is a I mean that I don't mean I'm not gonna get all like George Floyd here, but like murder cases that are very obviously not one person still getting blamed. Yep. Oh my god. Okay, sorry. I'm gonna skip around here because of what we were just talking about. This is a um ridiculous way. This is I like the heading on this OMG. I just was so scared. Great song by Usher, Usher, Usher. This one just made me so sad because it was like just a mistake and or some shithead using a loophole in the law. Um there was a Japanese exchange student living in New Orleans, and he went out to a party in in New Orleans, in his city, and he didn't know the neighborhood very well. So he was given an address to a party. He thought he found the house, so he went up to the door, knocked on the door, no one answered. So he started walking away from the door, and then um heard someone like yell from the door. So he went back and said, Hey, we're here for the party. The guy shot him with a revolver, just shot him. And like he died, of course. And in court, the person, um, PR Rodney Piaris um claimed that he was scared and thought the student was trespassing on his property. And he invoked the castle doctrine, in which Americans can claim that they have the right to apply lethal means to protect their homes. Uh-huh. I just was like, wait, that's still a thing? This was in the 70s? Um, this one, 1992.

SPEAKER_02 26:04

1992. You probably could say, you know, they bombed Pearl Harbor, and I was scared they were coming to surprise me too.

SPEAKER_00 26:13

I just that one that one made me sad. So that I just thought that was a nice segue of like this is still a thing that like that's so weird. I mean, that's in 1992. Do you think it's still a thing? Oh, I bet it's so I mean that's just weird.

SPEAKER_02 26:28

New Orleans, a lot of drugs. I think I'm I'm picking up a theme. A lot of drugs. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 26:34

It doesn't say if this person was high, but I we could do a follow-up of how many of these murderers were on drugs.

SPEAKER_02 26:42

Well, this guy wasn't a murderer. He's a killer, but not a murderer.

SPEAKER_00 26:45

It's now, so I just quick looked up. Is the castle doctrine still in effect? Oh, yeah. It's now the law of the land in Wisconsin, and it affects you and your family. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_02 26:55

Yes, it is. You know, I was reading about the Kyle Rittenhouse case recently. Yeah. And uh people are are castle doctoring him even though he was on somebody else's property that didn't ask him to be there.

SPEAKER_00 27:06

Anyway, um he uh what was I gonna Oh, we were talking about castle doctrine and land of the law and if it was still a thing. I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 27:15

Anyway, okay. That's happening, yeah. I can't remember.

SPEAKER_00 27:19

Okay, that's fair enough. Well, you know, it's Friday for us guys. It's yeah.

SPEAKER_02 27:22

Yeah, it's crazy. Our heads are everywhere. It's crazy. We're talking about murder. Oh no, so in Wisconsin it's called homicide, not murder. So they were ca it was a New York Times article, and it was uh comparing and contrasting with the George Floyd case, where the charge is murder, and in Wisconsin it's homicide, which I like because I don't think you should put that connotation on the accused of murder right off the bat. It's why um you can't call the people he shot victims. Uh, because you you're trying to put the burden of proof on the prosecution. It's a good thing, but it's just very interesting of you can be a killer but not a murderer.

SPEAKER_00 27:55

Yeah, I've never really paid attention to that.

SPEAKER_02 27:58

Weird nomenclature, English, weird, like weird, and that every state is different.

SPEAKER_00 28:02

Yes. I mean, this is another thing I've learned the more true crime you listen to. Um and again, for my favorite true crime podcast reacts, check out the notes on the Amoose Boosh episode. I share my favorite four. Um, but every state is so different that like there has been times when I'm listening to this, I'm like, note, don't ever move to this state. Like, note, I would be charged with murder by some weird loophole in this state.

SPEAKER_02 28:24

So I don't know if you've got to be a little bit more talked about this on the pod, but I am a law school voluntary withdrawal. Uh I went to a year of law school at Marquette. I hated it and uh voluntarily withdrew. Um that's a nice way of putting it. I think it kicked out. Uh they would have welcomed me back. Uh you know, I just didn't want to do it. It is a lot of money. The Great Recession, I was like, this is stupid. Why do I want $150,000 worth of debt to make $30,000 a year? But one of the things you learn, and one of the reasons I didn't like Marquette is in Wisconsin there's this thing called diploma privilege where you don't have to take a bar test, you can practice right away. So they're very intent on not teaching like principles of law, actual real law is what they teach you. And you learn pretty quickly, Wisconsin has all these weird minority jurisdiction law things that are exactly what you said of like you could get in real trouble because Wisconsin has this weird law that you don't even know exists. And you exactly, and I'm like, I don't want to so in Wisconsin, you have a duty of care to everyone. So basically, anyone can sue anyone at any time for not helping them if like a quote unquote reasonable person would so like let's say you got in a car crash and you're driving by, there's an argument to be made of like you should have stopped and helped.

SPEAKER_00 29:37

That is ridiculous.

SPEAKER_02 29:38

It's it's one of these things that just like paralyzes you with fear. So anyway, I'm so glad I'm not a lawyer.

SPEAKER_00 29:43

We are here on Halloween to paralyze you with fear, not by murder, but by war.

SPEAKER_02 29:49

Wisconsin weird minority jurisdictions, us in California, all the weird laws. How about this? Because we're the only two states with socialist governors. Did you know that? No. Yeah, there's two states that have elected actual socialist party governors, Wisconsin and California. And that's where all these laws happened.

SPEAKER_00 30:03

Are you serious? Yeah. Oh my god, Nick. Okay. We could go down a real table. Brittany probably knows this. Well, Britney's smarter than me. So um, I'm I'm gonna share three more, okay?

SPEAKER_03 30:15

I'm so excited.

SPEAKER_00 30:16

Um this is so much fun. This one, these are so I could just there's tons, but um, maybe you guys think this is boring. So I'll just give you three more brief ones. Um, Lawrence Bitaker and Ray Norris, no, I'm sorry, Roy Norris. They are known as the toolbox killers. So I know about the toy box killers, which is not Halloween related, nor is it something I want to repeat on this show. But if you're interested, more of it a true crime podcast has a really good episode or two on the toy box killer. Anyway, these are the toolbox killers. Their shtick was to um torture people with things you might find in a toolbox. And how would they get these people? Oh, hitchhiking. Because remember, that was a thing. That was a thing, and surprise, many people got murdered by getting in getting in cars with strangers. So don't do that. So um after what about Uber? Yeah, I mean, listen, I think about this all the time. I'm like, that's basically hitchhiking, but you're paying for it. So I mean, it is the same thing. No, it's not anyway. That's for a different day. Um, I could just walk everywhere here in Lake Geneva. So after a Halloween party, Shirley Ledford needed a ride. She was probably these also like fake names, by the way. Maybe they are. Gotta protect them. Just kidding, she's dead. So um, spoiler alert. Shirley is not alive. Um, they picked up Shirley Ledford, these two gentlemen, and what did they do? Tortured her in their vehicle. And what else did they do? Took pictures of it while they were doing it because that was part of their routine. Luckily, she was their fifth and final victim. They got five murders in when finally one of their friends decided to turn them in. Sadly, Ledford, who was like the leader of the gang, he or I'm sorry, Ledford was the woman, my my fault. Um, Lawrence, two L's. I'm already mixed up. Lawrence um was sentenced to death, but he died of natural causes. Super sad. He died in 2019, so just a couple years ago. And I'm sorry, it is super sad because he should have rotted, okay? Maybe he did. Um Norris, for some reason, his partner, was sentenced 45 to life. And you'd have to give me this like understanding of that seems like a big span. 45 to life. Why can't they just say life? Okay, is it too boring? Yeah. Well, I hope he dies in prison. Okay, this next one feels a little too close to home as well because why? It happened in Michigan. So again, this was a 22-year-old woman, and this might as well. Uh no, it's like it's not the UP because I looked up the name of the town.

SPEAKER_02 32:52

It's like um And you're not gonna pronounce it because you don't want to be mocked for getting this name wrong.

SPEAKER_00 32:57

No, I shouldn't. I have to find oops, wrong link. Um, Mum Mum, give me one second. It starts with an M somewhere in here. Okay, I'm gonna look for it while I tell you. Because this one I have um pretty well memorized because again, more of a true crime podcast, um, did this one and they did a really good job on it. But uh oh, she she's from Maybe M-A-Y-B-E-E. Maybe.

SPEAKER_02 33:22

That's a weird name.

SPEAKER_00 33:22

So anyway, um 22 years old. But why do I feel like basically this is me? Because she was going to a Halloween party at a bonfire. And like this is a very Midwestern thing. This is a thing. We go to parties in fields at bonfires. Like not so much currently in the same way that we used to, but like every weekend, that's probably what I used to do. Um, so this Chelsea Brook, this young lady, uh went to this thing in this bonfire in Michigan. However, this bonfire was hundreds of people. It was a guy who sounds like Midsummer to me. Midsummers sorry, I have something in my mouth that's bothering me. Um she she went to this bonfire and it it was this guy's name, I believe his name is Michael, who has these parties over and over again. So Halloween was a big one because more people came. Usually it was under 100, but this had hundreds of people. She was dressed up as Poison Ivy from Batman. Important because they found pieces of her costume later. So she was noted, she was there with friends and they left her. Idiots. Don't leave your drunk friends at a party. Um bad things happened. They drowned in Mississippi River.

unknown 34:32

Oh, God.

SPEAKER_00 34:32

I couldn't listen to the smiley face killer episode of more, but that one felt too close to home because it was. Um, so anyway, she was drunk. Uh, she also fell and hit her head, so she had a facial wound. Um, but her friends still left her. I think she said she wanted to like be with a dude, whatever. Come on, come on, people.

SPEAKER_02 34:50

Um the desire to continue humanity is strong.

SPEAKER_00 34:54

That's what she wanted to do in her poison ivy costume at a bonfire. Oh, the friend that left her. Yes. Um, so she was last seen at this party, kind of drunk, um, with a man. So the there was no, this was unsolved for a long time. Um, the first not that long, sorry, unsolved for months. Uh, the first big break came when they found pieces of her costume just in a different city called Flat Rock. And so they found bits of the like um, I think it was a shoe and part of the green poison ivy outfit that she had made. So again, this girl might as well be me. Um, so months later, uh, I think it was six months almost to the day they found her remains 10 miles away from the bonfire. So unsolved, but many people are saying that it's the dude who hosted all these parties. But like, why? Who knows? He hosts these parties all the time. But that one um opportunities. If you have any notes on that, you know, do you know anyone that was at this bonfire? Um, so that one felt like whoa.

SPEAKER_02 35:57

Just felt a little real. I why do these why do people kill people? Like, I honestly they're probably on drugs, Nick. They're probably on drugs. They probably had some LSD or cannabis or cocaine or I mean maybe they were at a party. Is that what they call it? But you is that making murder? Is that what they call it? I don't know. PCP, methamphetamine, uh pseudophed. I don't know what makes people murder.

SPEAKER_01 36:25

My only drug is alcohol. Help us understand.

SPEAKER_00 36:28

If there's a murderer listening, don't tell us because we would have to report you. But you know.

SPEAKER_02 36:33

No, do tell us. We'd love to report you.

SPEAKER_00 36:35

Yeah, no kidding. I do, I will say before I finish this last one, which I'm ending on this one because the last line is hilarious. Um, a lot of these true crime podcasts, and I don't think the shows do it so much, but definitely podcasts do it as a way to bring these cases to light, like cases that have gone cold. And it it's my understanding that it has helped. So, you know, we're joking around about these stories a little bit. Um, we aren't doing them justice by just giving you little tidbits here. But if you are concerned and interested in solving unsolved murders, I have given you many solved ones already. It sounds like um true crime, at least the true crime podcast I listen to, that is their goal, is like bringing these cases to light again.

SPEAKER_02 37:16

So I always think of the headline test, right? Of what you know, you do something, what's the headline in your local paper gonna be? Oh, you all call in with a murder thing to us, local podcast hosts solve unsolved murder, our heroes. If you murdered someone, let us know. We'll take care of it.

SPEAKER_00 37:32

Thanks, guys. So we're gonna wrap this uh murder segment up here with a Halloween 1981 murder when a nun died. Oh no, sister Tadea Benz, T-A-D-E-A, Tadia Tadea. Um, her body was found naked in a convent in Texas. So the other nuns in the house um saw a broken window in the common room, called the police.

SPEAKER_02 37:55

So there was a uh You said there's a funny line in this, so can I make a joke? Sure, man. Broken windows don't mean nothing. They can get inside. What is that? It's a um from It's Tricky by Ron DMC.

SPEAKER_00 38:09

I was like, this is gonna be something. Should have played it. Gotta pull it up on here. Um so this is simply Johnny Frank Garrett. Um, he was a witness, saw him running from the convent that evening. He lived across the street. The police arrested him. He was um convicted and sentenced to death in 1992. His last words were reported to be quote, I'd like to thank my family for loving me and taking care of me. The rest of the world can kiss my ass. Wow. So, guys, he just hated the world. So he ran across the street and stabbed a nun to death in the convent. What do you hate the world that much for? Aye.

SPEAKER_02 38:50

Murders.

SPEAKER_00 38:51

So all of those brief murders happened on Halloween. So happy Halloween, guys!

SPEAKER_01 38:57

What's the movie? Uh The Purge? Yeah, there's a lot of scary movies right now that I can't handle. Guys, don't watch them. I used to love scary movies. Stay safe. Yeah, please stay safe. Stay in your safe room with your, you know.

SPEAKER_02 39:12

Kit cat bars. Mini gun pointed at the door. If anybody walks through, hit that button, eviscerate them with the stream of bullets. You stay safe.

SPEAKER_00 39:22

We're gonna take a quick break, guys. We'll be right back. We're back. We're back. It's the only time I got to sing it. We only have one break this.

SPEAKER_02 39:51

Lucky you. Uh, I gotta give some shout out to Sarah. I want to talk about a food thing she did that I think is incredible.

SPEAKER_00 39:58

Sarah did an incredible food thing.

SPEAKER_02 40:00

Incredible.

SPEAKER_00 40:01

So did I this week. So go. Look at us killing it, Sarah.

SPEAKER_02 40:05

So we're doing some Halloween things, and Simo, my daughter that I love so much. Uh her and Lucy had a little Halloween party at school and Linky. And um, should we not use their names to protect the innocent? Sorry, you're already unprotected.

SPEAKER_00 40:22

Sorry, you're our friends, Erin. That's what happened.

SPEAKER_02 40:25

And uh Sarah found this thing on Pinterest or learned it from Josie. I don't remember. Uh, but anyway, she cut out, she took cookie cutters that were Halloween shapes, ghosts and pumpkins and um, I don't know, some other things. And other Halloween things these little cheese shapes and send them with crackers, and everybody got to have cheese and cracker snacks that were uh Halloween shapes. Yeah, it was Nick showed me a picture, super cute. And I had the leftover scraps for snacks as I was stabbing people in Assassin's Creed, and it was great. I loved it, it was very festive. Um it was a good use of negative space.

SPEAKER_00 41:02

I wanted to see Sarah today so I could show her what a great job she did compared to what I did, which was buy cups of mandarin oranges and draw pumpkin faces on them. Last year I drew faces on string cheese.

SPEAKER_02 41:13

Also strong.

SPEAKER_00 41:14

None of these are homemade things, they're all done the morning of.

SPEAKER_02 41:17

So it's like semi-homemade with Sandra Lee.

SPEAKER_00 41:19

Yeah, that's my jam.

SPEAKER_02 41:22

She's my girl, man. I do recommend keeping a can of diced Rotel tomatoes around your house because a can of Rotel with the chilies in them fixes a lot of things. What a weird real fast. A weird transition. Well, it's like a semi-homemade, you know?

SPEAKER_01 41:35

Like things you just dump in. I do have some in my pantry, actually. It's the way to do it.

SPEAKER_00 41:39

Um, I impressed myself this week. Uh and that is a high bar. Really is, guys. I uh, you know, we've had a it's been a challenging week or two in our household, and it's been really rainy, which I love this weather. But the other night it was like chilly, and I just like really wanted comforting food. The kids had already eaten something. I don't know, because I feel like we've had an event every night.

SPEAKER_03 42:01

Maybe cords.

SPEAKER_00 42:02

Sugar. They had sugar for dinner. They were asleep, and I'm like, well, we had ground beef that needed to be used, so I just made it, not having a plan. Like, what else could I do? I need some vegetables. So I was like, what frozen vegetables do I have? I had some like frozen carrots and peas, green beans. Heck yeah. Just dumped that in with the ground beef. Then I was like, I need to like flavor this with something. And so I just put all the spices. I was like, I don't know, salt, pepper, garlic, onion, uh, cumin, I think I put in and paprika. Whatever. It was real good. And then I had phyllo dough from our um failed. Yeah, from a failed thing that we did.

SPEAKER_01 42:40

Um the ashes of disaster, right? Success.

SPEAKER_02 42:43

You're like a phyllo.

SPEAKER_00 42:45

I was like, I gotta tell you about my phyllo dough. So I made like a little shepherd's pie pocket. I know, and it wasn't beautiful, but it was delicious. And then Tyler's favorite thing is shepherd's pie. And this was not, oh, I had frozen, frozen hash browns too. So yeah, I it was great. I just cooked the hash browns, kind of mashed them up a little, put some of this mixture, meat veggie mixture on top, and put it in a little pocket and air fried it for like three minutes, and it was delicious, okay?

SPEAKER_02 43:12

Tyler, you're gonna listen to this in two years when you catch up. When you want shepherd's pie, you hit a brother up. You know, I love a shepherd's pie.

SPEAKER_00 43:20

Yeah, I mean, this wasn't like my best shepherd's pie, but it was comforting and delicious. And I ate leftovers with a tortilla chip the other night. Oh, that seems good. So, anyway, I was really proud of myself. That's what I have to share with you today.

SPEAKER_02 43:32

What I'm really proud of myself for is finding an article about Milwaukee. Without me finding it first.

SPEAKER_00 43:41

I was, I was.

SPEAKER_02 43:42

So there's this kid, his name is Joe, that on Milwaukee wrote about him, actually has wrote about him several times. He's just um, you know, a kid. A kid that loves Milwaukee, like Bridget does. Yeah, kid. And every year he's uh well, not every well, I it seems like every yeah. Uh They his parents dressed him up as Milwaukee themes when he was a little baby, and then he evidently got into it. He always dresses up as a Milwaukee theme. So, like one year he was a specific bus. One year he was the Milwaukee flag. Uh one year he was a coffee thing. Uh last year he was the Mitchell Park Domes. Yes. Hashtag save the domes. Uh and then he was the hop one year with like complete with Pottawatomi branding. Those guys don't need help, Joe.

SPEAKER_00 44:26

I mean, they paid a lot to be on the hop.

SPEAKER_02 44:28

Good for you. Um this year, this is my favorite thing ever. Yes. He was the Marquette Interchange. This was good work. He he like maybe he, maybe his parents, he did some of the painting for sure. Like they had the signs right and everything. Um he had the like scale model of the Marquette Interchange complete with matchbook cars on it, and he was in the middle. And I'm just like, I this you want to talk about trigger warnings. He needs a trigger warning because the construction on that damn interchange.

SPEAKER_00 44:59

The level of dedication to this costume and this kid, like how old do you think he is? Seven? Six. He's six. So it's right. Oh, okay. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_02 45:07

Six-year-old Joe Rox Milwaukee Landmark Halloween costume.

SPEAKER_00 45:09

So I'm so sad because I already feel like Lucy won't let me dress her in whatever I want. You know, she can't. No, she won't. I'm wearing my Elsa nightgown for the tenth day this week. Anyway, I love a good creative Halloween costume, but more on that in Kid Corner.

SPEAKER_02 45:23

This is so cool. I mean, he's so cute. It would have been even cooler if he had the uh like LED lights that like the purple ones. One of my favorite things about when they did the Marquette Interchanges, they're like, hey, we're putting all these purple LED lights on and people are like, well, that's a little uh extravagant there, don't you think?

SPEAKER_01 45:38

And they're like purple.

SPEAKER_02 45:39

It's literally cheaper than normal lights, and we're gonna like change the colors. Yeah, or you're gonna change the colors. Yeah, we're gonna do it for like seasons and themes. It's gonna be cool. It's beautiful. And now everyone's like, oh, isn't it so cool? Our interchange has lights that change colors.

SPEAKER_00 45:52

I mean, it does make it look cooler than an interchange. It's kind of like told you so. Okay, so I hope you love that. My article is from forestry.com.

SPEAKER_02 46:03

Yeah, I want to know what the heck this is.

SPEAKER_00 46:04

Which I can't say is a website I frequent.

SPEAKER_02 46:07

Uh I don't know, Bridget. You got some big trees in your house. You do want to take them out with your Reno.

SPEAKER_00 46:13

Yeah, I'm gonna keep those ones in. Those ones are my favorite. I mean, maybe you're on nature. Brittany sent this to you. I know. I'm like, I wonder, this feels like a website, probably Britney and her husband uh look at regularly, but not me. I, of course, ran across it on Instagram, like every good old millennial. Um the world's largest smiley face is in the forest. Oh. So I wanted a Halloween story. So when I first discovered it, it was um the the reason I think it fits in the plan here is the smiley face was supposed to be yellow. Um, and I'll get into the details here, but in the autumn it turns yellow. So fall leaves are the best, you know, fall season right now, best time to see this smiley face. So in Oregon, um, a person named Hampton Lumber, or I'm sorry, a company, a person, Hampton Lumber uh planted this smiley face. It's well, legally corporations are people. Well, so you're not wrong, Bridget. I can't keep my life together right now. So um Will Wilamina, um, if there's a highway that goes through Wilamina, Oregon, and you can see the smiley face from it, it's planted on a hillside, and they just planted different trees that form a smiley face. That is creepy.

SPEAKER_02 47:24

So when I think it's so cute. No, that is creepy. You are beautiful. No, that's creepy.

SPEAKER_00 47:29

Uh, so it's the world's largest smiley, and it is look, this photo's from Reddit, Nick. Don't you love it?

SPEAKER_02 47:34

Okay, what's the what's the guy uh that jumped out of the plane after he he hijacked it, took all the money, jumped out of the plane in Oregon. What's that guy's name? I don't know. Uh does he work for Hampton Lumber? No, okay.

SPEAKER_00 47:46

What's the guy's name? Well, it took a week to plant this smiley face, and I was like, oh man, a week in 2011. They used a rope to make Cooper.

SPEAKER_02 47:54

Why why? Who cares? I bet that's where he is. That like you want to talk about creepy, weird killer stuff.

SPEAKER_00 48:01

Oh, the smiley face killer. I'm like, what do you mean? No way, this is just meant to make people happy. Anyway, it was nice.

SPEAKER_02 48:09

Oh, if you come in this happy place, it's gonna ruin it. Don't come in here. There's probably like 20 bodies there. There's more serial killers from the Pacific Northwest than any other region.

SPEAKER_00 48:18

There is actually many serial killers out there. But it's it's meant to view from afar as you're like sitting in traffic on the highway, which there is also a lot of traffic. Um, so it's this article on forestry.com, of course, is saying it's nice to hear about forest companies not only thinking about the short-term profit, but like they took time to do something fun and makes people happy. And then it says sooner or later the trees in the smiley will most likely end up in a local saw sawmill anyway. So, anyway, very cute. Gave me a little smile. We will make sure you can see the article so you can see the not creepy smiley face. It's very adorable. Unless you're Nick. On that note, it's time for Kid Corner. Oh my god, I didn't have the outline open. I panicked. I was like, what if it isn't Kid Corner and I'm gonna cry and sing and nope, nope, okay. Kid Corner and it's Halloween, you guys. So what do you think we're talking about?

SPEAKER_02 49:08

We had uh incredible trunk retreat thing at uh daycare. Crazy. And there's a lot of people there.

SPEAKER_00 49:17

Well, I would have laid it out differently.

SPEAKER_02 49:19

But it was really really fun. Yeah, I I I couldn't believe how many people there were. I was like, oh, this is weird.

SPEAKER_00 49:26

Um yeah, because there was like eight people on the sign-up sheet and then like 20 showed up. People sign up.

SPEAKER_02 49:31

You know, it's like people showing up at your store at 10 o'clock in the morning when the event's happening at seven that involves a lot of prep. People are like, I'd like a ticket.

unknown 49:39

I'd like a ticket.

SPEAKER_02 49:41

Lady, there's some prep that goes into this. Anyway, um we decided we'd participate on the morning of because he didn't sign up, like showing up with a car, like and instead of trick or treat, guess what we did? Trick or meat! Trick or meat! It was so cute. So we uh we did a butcher-themed trunk, but actually is the back of a truck, uh Lake Chief and Country Meets truck. There were uh dead animals all over the place. Uh nope. Uh saws. Uh so I spent my entire day like sending Sarah pictures of like, hey, what would you think about if I brought this saw?

SPEAKER_01 50:16

What if we brought a carcass?

SPEAKER_02 50:17

Or this meat hook? Uh I found it funny. She didn't. She didn't. Uh, but weird. Uh anyway, so we handed out meat sticks. We were a big hit. I think we should win because it's a contest. Uh, and as Bridget knows, when it's a contest, you go all out to win.

SPEAKER_00 50:34

Mo told me today that he thinks that I should have won. Moses. I'm just telling you, I was like, whoa, you just met me like that.

SPEAKER_01 50:42

You did look good as Elsa. I know I did. And uh just kidding, I did not. My confidence is lacking.

SPEAKER_02 50:50

You get a great, great Elsa thing. Yeah, it was from a thrift store. So we we handed out meat sticks. We had a chef costume for Simona to go with it, and um from Shannon. Thank you very much, Shannon. Um, she was very cute, and then she got um uh agitated.

SPEAKER_00 51:04

Yeah, she's not in a costume today either.

SPEAKER_02 51:06

Yeah, she doesn't she just like doesn't that girl would run around naked constantly if she could.

SPEAKER_00 51:11

I wanted to see her.

SPEAKER_02 51:12

I love little kids.

SPEAKER_00 51:14

Well, oh Lucy, for sure. Yeah, but now all she wears is her Elson nightgown. So anyway. Trunker Meat was really funny. Like for throwing together on the last minute, like bags of meat sticks saying trunker meat, A plus. It was a lot of fun. We had fun. Trunker treats have become like a huge I didn't know what a trunker treat was until a couple years ago.

SPEAKER_02 51:33

Well, it's because like walking between people's houses is weird and you don't know what you're gonna get, but it's like you can like have a thing where it's like, okay, show up to this place, you're gonna get candy, like it's gonna be an even exchange of how much you give out versus how much you get. You're not gonna get murdered. Well, nobody's gonna give you a pixie stick, cyanide cyanide.

SPEAKER_00 51:52

But it's also the adults put time into it, which makes I I like when adults are like, we're gonna do this for fun for the kids. So, like, it took time to decorate the trunks and like so people, I don't know. I thought Shannon's Candyland was real good. It was the trunks were so good. Um, I saw a really good one from a different trunk retreat that was a box of Crayola crayons, and then the the costumes, the people were the crayons. Nice. Um, but my mom's church used to do one that was trunk or treat in the parking lot, so that was spread out the whole parking lot, and then the center of the parking lot, the kids could like dance and hang out, and there was like games and a popcorn machine, and so it was just like a nice little outdoor fall fest. Anyway, I also participated.

SPEAKER_02 52:30

But was there a cotton candy machine?

SPEAKER_00 52:32

I don't know, but this is a side note that I'm gonna share with you all. My trunk was frozen themed, so we had like the batting. Um, do you know what batting is? Like it's like white, fluffy, it looks like snow. It's a thing in baseball when you hold a bat in your hand, you buy it at Joanne's fabrics and you hit the ball. It's like how you stuff a pillow if you're homemaking a pillow, um, for example. So I I had that, my mom had some. I used it to decorate as snow in my trunk. Well, there was still some in my trunk today in a bag that hadn't opened. Elliot grabbed it and thought it'd be fun to play with on the five-minute drive into uh school today. Uh he's at the YMCA today for a no school day, but he started pulling the batting out everywhere. And somehow we got into talking. I was once cotton candy for Halloween. And oh, that's a good one. I used the batting and decorated. And so he asked me today as we record, which is Friday, before Sunday, he's like, I want you to make another cotton candy costume. That's what I want you to wear on Sunday. And I'm like, I don't have time to do that, kid. But on that note, what I did have time to do.

SPEAKER_02 53:29

Do you know what I'm gonna be? I'm gonna scompose you real fast. What? So staff dress up this weekend at Lake Gema Country Meets. You know what I'm gonna be? What? A dad. No, I'm just gonna dress up as a dad.

SPEAKER_01 53:39

That's BS. I'm gonna wear jeans and a Patagonia. Ugh. And a trucker hat. Which is what he wears every day, everybody.

SPEAKER_00 53:45

Just kidding. No Patagonia today. I'm a dad. Could you dress up, please? I love when people who always refuse to dress up finally dress up and you're like, yes. Do it. I have 2,500 costumes. I am who I am. All right, jerk. So we have had a Halloween activity, no joke, every night this week, because Elliot's in a school and Lucy's at daycare and they have different Halloween schedules. So it has been no kidding. Last night for dinner, my kids had Kit Kats, cookies, and apples. Because we were at an event and then we stopped by some food groups. Like a family friend's house, and I'm like, all right, well, here we are. So it's been a lot, and the kids have been acting out because, and you know, so Tyler and I this morning, the kids were acting out, and I said, I sat him down because we were both frustrated. And I said, This is our fault. Like we are letting our kids have sugar for dinner and going to bed too late. So this is our fault. So we haven't even made it to Halloween, but one of my favorite moments, I I had I had one for each kid this week. We really focused for Lucy's daycare trunk or treat on it being all about Lucy because it never is. It, you know, she's the second child. So we did all Elsa everything. Like Lucy loves Elsa and Baby Shark, all of the stereotypes. There was a good baby shark trunk. There was. We made sure to visit it 25 times. So, but we went all out on an Elsa trunk, and um, and then I dressed up as Elsa, which she didn't care about, and I really wanted to like make her care, but she didn't. Uh sad. So we had a lot of fun with that on Tuesday. And then uh Elliot and I, I did um my one hour's worth of PTO volunteering this year, and I decided that I'm done with the PTO already. It was a lot. Um, but I cheers to that. I will volunteer in other ways. Um, we had what's called the beautiful night, and they do a really fun Halloween thing for the kids. They can't wear their costumes to school because it's too distracting, which I guess is fair, although you can dress up for homecoming week. Um, yeah. So they do a the PTO hosts a fun Halloween event. It's usually outside, and they had to move it in this year, which was a bit chaotic, but they did a nice job. And the best part is Elliot has a whole bin of costumes. Like we have we've done maybe I think realistically four Halloween events so far, and he's wore a different costume every time. He picks the morning of out of this bin of costumes that we gave him last year for like we gave him for Christmas when we bought them on clearance after Halloween. And so one of the costumes is an astronaut. And I just have really been wanting him to be an astronaut, but he doesn't care.

SPEAKER_02 56:06

Um well anybody can take a ride in Jeff Bezos's Well, this was during the um NASA says you're not an astronaut if you're Jeff Bezos.

SPEAKER_00 56:15

Good. Um this he cared about space for a while. Um, so so anyway, he wanted to be an astronaut for a while. So I was like, oh, cool, I'll be an astronaut. We had the Target dollar spot, had these like little um helmet things that I bought, like cheap Halloween costume helmets that were like three bucks. So I bought them to put in the costume bin. So we had an astronaut one. So all in one day, in like one hour, I made an astronaut costume for mom so I could match Elliot. So nice. Here's your tip: if it's Halloween morning and you're listening and you're like, shit, I don't have a costume, go to Home Depot, buy the white paint suits. It was $11.74. It's like a paint cover all. It zips up. It even has a hood, so you don't even have to have an astronaut helmet. You can put the hood on and some glasses, and then I put some black duct tape lines, and then I went and bought glittery stars at Walmart and like put star stickers, and I just stuck them on my sleeve and my chest, and some, oh, and then I wore a black belt. I'm just saying, I looked like an astronaut and it was good. Elliot and I matched for like four seconds until he decided he wanted to change his costume. Then I was just the weird parent dressed as an astronaut.

SPEAKER_02 57:18

We all have dreams.

SPEAKER_00 57:19

So Halloween is super fun. Have someone said somewhere, if if teenagers come to your door looking for candy, instead of getting mad, think hey, at least they're not out partying.

SPEAKER_02 57:29

And I'm like, okay, I mean here's the thing, they're gonna get the candy, then they're gonna.

SPEAKER_00 57:34

I get mad about it too, and then I'm like, well, if they're if they paid attention and did a cool costume, I'll give them a candy. Nick, do a cool costume.

SPEAKER_01 57:44

Nick does not support my love for the holidays, everybody. Oh no, I love the holidays. I just um I just love them differently.

SPEAKER_00 57:51

We hope you love them, and and uh I hope you're maybe not actually listening to us while you're trick-or-treating. And we hope you don't get murdered. Also that. Um, have a super fun Halloween, and if you're listening to us after that, Merry Christmas, basically.

SPEAKER_02 58:04

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SPEAKER_01 58:22

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SPEAKER_02 58:26

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SPEAKER_00 58:34

Thanks for listening, guys. Have a great week. Bye.