Can You Tell the Difference Between a $15 and a $50 Bottle of Wine? - Pinkies Up Ep. 1

SPEAKER_01 0:00

Hey guys, it's Bridget. Today on Pinkies Up, I learned if I can tell the difference between this $15 bottle and this $50 bottle of wine. It's important to know if it matters if you spend a little more money or not, and I tasted them all and figured out the answer to that question on this month's episode of Pinky's Up.

SPEAKER_00 0:16

Welcome to Pinky's Up, a series where we answer questions normal wine drinkers like Bridget have about wine. I'm Nick, and I'm here to answer these questions in a way that makes sense, whether you drink your wine with your pinky up or you drink it in a solo cup. Let's see what's going on this month.

SPEAKER_01 0:31

Okay, hi everybody. Welcome to the very first episode of Pinkies Up. We are so glad you're here. Nick, you don't look silly like I do. This is a brand new thing we are doing. It's part of our dinner plus drink series, but we're gonna be releasing this once every month on Wednesdays for you to enjoy. And we're gonna answer some questions that regular people ask about wine. So, Nick, what are we talking about this week?

SPEAKER_00 0:53

Well, first of all, I love your fanciness. Oh, yes, thank you. I love your fanciness. This is normal. You seem like the person that would be all hoody-toady about wine. Yeah. But you're not really. No, I'm just a normal person, can't you tell? You like red wine a lot?

SPEAKER_01 1:05

I do, I love it.

SPEAKER_00 1:06

Um white wine in the summer, too. Yep, when it's hot out. Rose, bubbles, especially. Bubbles always. I am somebody that really loves wine. We we like to store wine, we like to sell our wine. I'm also our wine buyer at the store. So I get the chance to try a lot of wine, go to wineries, meet winemakers, grape growers, all sorts of things. So I have a pretty decent knowledge of wine. And I always struggle with I'm kind of a wine geek, and I don't want to make wine scary or unapproachable. And I always try to make sure that when someone comes to me and is looking for a bottle of wine to enjoy with their meal, whether it's they have a budget for $10 or $100, that I give them an answer that's something normal people could do. So if you're drinking, think he's up, or just like a normal person, it doesn't really matter. So one of the questions I get the most from customers is wow, that bottle of wine's $50. Is it really worth it? I think you have that question sometimes, right?

SPEAKER_01 2:04

I do, yeah, because I don't often drink $50 bottles of wine unless, you know, Nick lets me try them. Um, but that's not what we normally buy at home. So I do wonder the difference between if I just buy my, you know, $12 bottle versus $30 or $50 or above.

SPEAKER_00 2:19

What's the difference? We're gonna test it out. We're gonna see normal wine drinker, someone that I'm not trying to make you sound like an alcoholic, but you do drink a good amount of wine. I like red wine. You like red wine. Um, if you can tell what we have, four bottles of wine brown bagged. Um two of them are the same price point, and there's three price points represented here: $15, $30, and $50. Okay. So, like a very nice special bottle, a kind of like treat yourself bottle, and then just an everyday bottle. Treat yourself. Treat yourself. So um we're gonna we have these in order. I'm gonna pour them for you. These are all Cabernet Sauvignons from California, Cabernet Sauvignon being the grape. Um, they have a little bit of other grapes blended in, but at least 80% Cabernet on all these. So I'm not trying to, you know, screw you up with that.

SPEAKER_01 3:07

And for those of you that are new, cab is my favorite. So this should, in theory, be easy for me, but don't judge me if it's not.

SPEAKER_00 3:13

So what we're gonna do is I'm gonna pour you a little bit of each wine. Okay. Um, just write down your notes, say what you think about each one, and at the end, um, we're gonna have you pick which wines you think were 15, which were 30, which were 50. We'll reveal what they are, and I'll kind of share a little bit about why I think maybe you thought they were the price they were and what makes them that price they were, so that everybody listening can understand if it's worth it for you to go and buy a more expensive bottle and to also understand some things that go into wine pricing, because a hundred dollar bottle of wine isn't a hundred percent more expensive to make than a $50 bottle of wine. But there are some things that go into it, so we'll we'll go into that a little bit too. So a little bit of geeky, but also trying to make it simple.

SPEAKER_01 4:00

Normal people here. I'll be giving you the normal people comments, so don't expect anything too crazy from me. But just to clarify, four bottles, two of them will be a like though there might be two fifty dollar bottles or two thirty or two fifty.

SPEAKER_00 4:12

You hope it's two fifty bottles. I'm so stressed out. No, I'm so stressed out. Because we have to do two, because it'd be too easy if it was, you know, just one of each. Shall I drink with my pinky up? You're drinking out of a teacup. Yes, I'm drinking out of a hydro flask for wine, which is a great invention. Cheers, Bretch.

SPEAKER_01 4:28

Uh Pinkies up.

SPEAKER_00 4:30

Pinkies up.

SPEAKER_01 4:33

Okay, I can't drink with my pinky up all the time. Okay. Hmm. Sorry, I need to do this again.

SPEAKER_00 4:39

I was laughing about my pinkies too much. Always judge on the second sip, too. You gotta prime the palate a little bit because you're not ready for this.

SPEAKER_01 4:46

Okay. This one tastes dry on the finish, which is not like for the record, everybody. It's not normally I wouldn't like sit around discussing with my friends if it tastes dry on the finish. Um, but I have learned more about wine in my time here. Um, and it's honestly that's the most notable thing to me. It tastes a little fruity and dry at the end. I mean that easy, right?

SPEAKER_00 5:06

There's like nice green olive stuff on the end, like that kind of tamponade that um I am taking notes here, guys. Good Cabernet would have. Okay. Um don't give anything away here, Nick. Nice fruit. Dry finish. I definitely agree with you. It's a dry, good, dry finish. Very long-lasting.

SPEAKER_01 5:22

So, and you know, we're gonna talk through this series about like what we can. I just want to know, like, tell me what winding. This is a great steak wine. And this is exactly what I was thinking.

SPEAKER_00 5:32

These are all really very good steak wines. I try to pick things that were kind of in the same style. I didn't want to go, you know, Australian Cabernet is better with barbecue than California Cabernet, oftentimes. But we want to make this simple. Can you figure out the price points?

SPEAKER_01 5:46

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 5:46

Not trying to make you look bad.

SPEAKER_01 5:48

Oh, I need to finish this, huh? Oh, I should have made it. I feel like we need a dump bucket. We can get a dump bucket. Would you like one? Because we're all about mixing the class here with the regular people. Okay, this is what we're gonna do because I'm a responsible adult. You gotta pick up your kids soon. Do, I do.

unknown 6:04

All right.

SPEAKER_01 6:04

I'm gonna wear this. Should I wear this for pickup? I think you should.

SPEAKER_00 6:07

Bottle number two.

SPEAKER_01 6:08

I just wanted an excuse to be able to wear these fun hats for you guys, so that's why Pinky Sump was developed. Okay, thank you.

SPEAKER_00 6:18

Should I always drink out of my teacup? I think it's a good drinking vessel for wine. We're big onto um plastic cups. We like plastic cups for wine. Like plastic wine glasses. Because you can dishwasher them without feeling bad and don't break with children around.

SPEAKER_01 6:31

I am quite picky actually about my drink wear. As you can tell, I'm drinking out of a teacup.

SPEAKER_00 6:37

All right, so this is bottle number two. What do you think of this?

SPEAKER_01 6:42

I don't um I have a thought on this one already. Okay, I don't, it's not as dry, is what I have to say about this.

SPEAKER_00 6:51

Um, a little bit more kind of like red cherry to me.

SPEAKER_01 6:54

Yeah, it it I mean, I still taste fruit. Um, it does not feel as like, here's my classy word for you all, girthy. It doesn't feel as like as bold um as the first one to me.

SPEAKER_00 7:06

Not as girthy, so not as wide is what you're saying. Because there's length and girth. Nick went there.

SPEAKER_01 7:12

Ooh, uh I okay. I I think your comment about sipping it the sec, like judging as future sips is changing what I have to say.

SPEAKER_00 7:19

So I I would I think that's an interesting observation. Um that's a good way to think of wine oftentimes, is it has a length of you experience it different on the front, middle, and uh some wines you're gonna have more on the front end, some on the back end.

SPEAKER_01 7:34

So it's always I don't know a lot about like the taste on the front end, to be honest, and how that goes into the discussion about the bottle of wine. Because I you always hear people say like a dry finish or a fruity finish.

SPEAKER_00 7:44

Well, and a lot of what you taste, you don't really taste, you smell because there's not very many things you can taste, but you smell a lot of things. So a lot of the stuff is in the aroma, and then you associate the aroma with the taste.

SPEAKER_01 7:53

I will say that's up front. They have definitely gotten better. Like the first sip of both of them were a little like I like wasn't prepared, right? No. And they're none of none of these two so far are bad wines. These are wines I would drink again. Nick, I feel like I'm really nervous about being able to judge these.

SPEAKER_00 8:09

You're gonna be fine. You're gonna be fine. This is all that blind wine tasting is about. It's deductive reasoning. One was a little drier, one had a little bit more red fruit. I know, but I think that were you just gonna pour it. Pour it in the duck cup.

SPEAKER_01 8:22

Yes, everybody. We're not, if I'm drinking this, we're in trouble. Please set it on my saucer, Nick. Thank you, kind sir. Wine number three. This is a fancy establishment. Okay, wine number three. I'm a note taker, everybody, and I need to do this when I'm trying to figure out uh what's what here. I I will say, maybe this is a future episode, but the discussion of the swirling and the smelling, I think is maybe something that's a little. I think that's something that's a little intimidating to people who are newer to wine. Like, am I supposed to swirl this? Like, do I have to smell it or whatever?

SPEAKER_00 8:55

So swirling it definitely helps get the aromas into the top of the glass in your nose, and you want to get aromas because, like I said, you can't taste that many things, but you can smell a ton of things. So swirling around, and that's why glasses you don't pour to the top. Wisconsin. Um, it depends what every supper club in the world. Please don't pour my wine glass to the top. Um so swirling gets some of that aroma out so you can smell more.

SPEAKER_01 9:21

This one is so different to me, like significantly different tasting. Um, but I can't like nail what it is. It's not as fruit forward to me.

SPEAKER_00 9:31

I get a little bit more fruit throughout. I get more like current. Maybe it's a fruit I'm not familiar with.

SPEAKER_01 9:38

Yep. Is rather what it is.

SPEAKER_00 9:40

I always one of these episodes would probably do can you write the most pretentious tasty notes possible for a wine? And some winemakers really go over the top with their pretentious tasty notes. I was talking to a guy from Burgundy, France once. His name was uh Nico. Um Nico and Nick. And Nico and Nick. Excellent English, but very strong French accent and very leans into the French part of himself, which is you know good when you're a foreigner here selling foreign wine. I want to buy French wine from a French guy, so play with the French stuff. And I said, Nico, I don't I don't understand how you get rose out of this Pinot Noir. I said, Nick. You know what a rose smells like. You know it smells like this. Close your eyes. Dissociate yourself from your vision, and you know it smells like a rose. Well, great advice. Just dissociate yourself from what you're seeing. You know, it doesn't look like currants, but you know what currants smell like. I I've never had a currant. Is that weird? You live in Wisconsin, there's currants on the side of every road. Pull over and eat some. I mean, I literally don't think I could pick out what a currant is. It's a really juicy but also bitter red fruit.

SPEAKER_01 10:53

I mean, like it just looks like a berry.

SPEAKER_00 10:55

So think about like a gusher, like a cherry gusher. Perfect. Like the sour cherry gusher. You know, where you bite into it and you get like that. I've never eaten a current. Like cherry, sugary cherry. Ooh, this is bitter. That's a current. Sounds delicious. All right, wine number four.

SPEAKER_01 11:16

I'm nervous about this. You guys, I'm second guessing my decisions. I feel like I needed to like maybe have a saltine in between each of these. What's the appropriate palate cleanser if you want to do an at-home wine tasting?

SPEAKER_00 11:29

I mean water. Seriously? Yeah, water. That was not that was meant to be a serious question. A little a little cracker if you want, but water.

SPEAKER_01 11:37

I guess I should have had my water.

SPEAKER_00 11:39

Sorry. Also, more wine is obviously gonna help you because it keeps um what you talked about with the second sip, you're getting shocked by alcohol and tannin on your tongue every time. So water takes all that off, so you're gonna experience shock every time you wash it. Whereas if you always have it's kind of like uh painting, you know? If you always have if you sand it down, you have to prime it again. But if you paint on top of paint, the paint adheres still. So this is bottle number four. I'm I I'm so nervous to guess these things. I have to tell you. It's okay if you don't know, because if they don't taste that different, then you know one thing. If they taste super different, you know another thing.

SPEAKER_01 12:20

Like this one tastes significantly different, but I can't like obviously if I've never eaten a currant, I can tell you one, you know, was more fruity on the front, a little drier on the finish, but I can't like nail what would make it more expensive. We'll get into that. Okay. I'm waiting and waiting.

SPEAKER_00 12:42

All right. So I'm gonna I'm gonna ask you, did you have a favorite? Um the first one. The first one was your favorite. Yep. Okay. And why was that?

SPEAKER_01 12:53

It was bolder. It felt bolder to me. I don't know if it actually was, but I could like I knew when I drank it that it would taste good with steak.

SPEAKER_00 13:00

Wonderful. So how much do you think that one was? Your choices are $15, $30, or $50.

SPEAKER_01 13:06

I think it was the $50 one.

SPEAKER_00 13:08

Okay, so wine number one was the $50 one, or it could have been two $50 ones. I could have, yeah. Or it could have been no $50 ones. Did I actually do that to you? No. All right. Wine number two. How much did you think wine number two was?

SPEAKER_01 13:21

Wine number two was $15.

SPEAKER_00 13:23

All right. Why'd you think that one was $15?

SPEAKER_01 13:26

Because it felt not as girthy to me. And I've, for whatever reason, in my head, that to me feels like it's watered down, which like I believe that's not true, but in my head, that's where I would go. Is like, if don't give me a cab that tastes like water. And it didn't. It didn't taste like water, but it just was as compared to number one. Excellent.

SPEAKER_00 13:45

More watery. One number three. 15. 15. All right. How much? Uh why'd you think that one was 15?

SPEAKER_01 13:53

Um, I don't have uh it just wasn't my favorite one.

SPEAKER_00 13:56

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 13:56

Yeah. I don't have a great reason. Okay. Um, but but I thought the last one was 30. So my head. I I mean, honestly, really, these two are probably both 30, but this is what I wrote down initially, and I'm trying to go with it.

SPEAKER_00 14:10

How would I trick you? I know now you gotta outthink yourself.

SPEAKER_01 14:12

I know this is the problem. So I'm just went with my gut that was like written down. Otherwise, I will play this game all day.

SPEAKER_00 14:17

All right. So as a reveal, should we go like one, two, three, four, or should we go which you thought was fifteen? Was it 15? What you thought was 50, was it 50? Let's go that way. All right, so we'll start with wine number two, which you thought wasn't very girthy.

SPEAKER_01 14:32

Not very girthy. I wrote down not as girthy, not as dry. But this is my problem, is I just compared it to number one.

SPEAKER_00 14:38

So this is Matthew Fritz North Coast Cabernet Sauvignon, and it's $15.

SPEAKER_01 14:43

Oh yay! Okay, the other thing is, guys, we should say why we put brown bags in, is like you can tell by label, sometimes, not always, but like you can tell by labels, bottle quality, things like that. Sometimes um regular people like me can tell sometimes.

SPEAKER_00 14:58

And packaging is a big expense. Like it definitely adds to what the bottle costs. So Matthew Fritz is a great producer. Um, this one is I think it's really over-delivers for $15.

SPEAKER_01 15:10

All of these I would drink again, let me be clear.

SPEAKER_00 15:13

This one, it's it's $15 because if you see it says North Coast on it. So that means it gets fruit from a lot of different counties in Northern California, Napa, Sonoma, Lake, Mendocino. Okay. Um, land's not very expensive in Mendocino compared to Napa's. So they save a lot of money on the grapes.

SPEAKER_01 15:29

Um, and then when you get grapes from multiple places, is that generally less um desirable than one single grape? Generally less desirable.

SPEAKER_00 15:36

Great. And what you tasted with the less girthy, less oak in it, less oak aging. So oak barrels are very expensive. If you're buying a new French oak barrel, that'll cost you $700 to $1,000. Um, so it's very expensive. This doesn't have a lot of that, it gives it a little less weight to it and makes it, you know, a little less expensive. So if you like that less heavy style of wine, um, usually buying a more expensive cabinet, you're gonna get more oak, and that means you're not gonna like it. So save the money.

SPEAKER_01 16:04

That's a great, I never realized that's what made it like old and hmm. Okay, great tip, Nick.

SPEAKER_00 16:10

All right, so next we have wine number three that you also thought was $15.

SPEAKER_01 16:16

I don't, I'm not settled on this one.

SPEAKER_00 16:17

And you didn't you didn't necessarily like this one. This one is Oh my god, duck horn, which is actually our $50 bottle. $50 bottle. Wow, and that wasn't my favorite. So you that was your least favorite, and you thought it was $15. Look at me, but it was $50. And why did you think it was $15? You said you just didn't like it.

SPEAKER_01 16:36

I just didn't love it. I I honestly would have to okay, I'm gonna do this. I'm gonna try it again.

SPEAKER_00 16:40

Once again, now that you know it's $50.

SPEAKER_01 16:43

Yeah, and I don't, honestly, I don't I didn't write down much with this besides that it wasn't as fruit forward. Um, but is is it like okay to say that I like a little more fruit forward, but also bold?

SPEAKER_00 16:56

Yeah, definitely. And I think that's one of the things that comes out of doing this is this wine isn't gonna be as fruit forward. It's got more secondary and tertiary characteristics.

SPEAKER_01 17:06

So yeah, now like it's still um bold enough for me, right? Like it's still got that girth, if you will, which is something I really like.

SPEAKER_00 17:13

Um this has got more of that like green olive top and not, it's got more um kind of cedar. So this has got a lot more. So this is $50 because this is Napa Valley Fruit. And Napa Valley Fruit's expensive. It's a brand name. Duckhorn's a brand name, so they can charge a premium for that.

SPEAKER_01 17:30

Um I knew as soon as you took it out of the bag that this was the $50. I know.

SPEAKER_00 17:33

Bring this to a party. Yep. And people are gonna know you brought a nice bottle of wine and you're gonna pay a little premium for that, you know?

SPEAKER_01 17:40

Oh, that's important to some people.

SPEAKER_00 17:41

That's kind of how it goes. The bottle, um, heavy glass, big punt on the bottom here, the little hole here. It's called a punt. Um, people think a big punt means it's very expensive. Yeah. So, you know, but that's expensive because think about how to make a glass bottle that has a huge hole in the bottom, exactly more or less.

SPEAKER_01 17:57

Can I tell you now that I'm drinking it? This is hard to explain, but on the end, it kind of goes like almost like a little tannin.

SPEAKER_00 18:04

So a lot of tannin, and it gets that from the oak, which is that's what I don't love, which is interesting.

SPEAKER_01 18:08

I like the bold, but I don't love the tannin on the end.

SPEAKER_00 18:10

Yeah, so a lot of more expensive wines are gonna have that. This is also made to be able to age for a while. So there's some more acidity left in it. Um, with the thought of if somebody wants to hold on to this for four or five years, it'll mellow out a little bit.

SPEAKER_01 18:23

I think that is a piece of this that like definitely I don't um collect wine in this way, you know. I just don't. Uh uh, it's something maybe if I was more educated about a few years back, I would have started. So, so generally more expensive bottles better for aging. Yep, definitely. Okay, so honestly, that's probably why I haven't ventured into that very much because it's not, I don't, I don't save bottles of wine, you know.

SPEAKER_00 18:45

I drink them usually that week. You and 99.5% of people. Oh man. All right, so wine number four. You thought this one was $30. Yes. And this one, I can get it open. This one is postmark also by the Duckhorn Wine Company. This is $30. It is. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 19:06

Wow, so this is hilarious.

SPEAKER_00 19:09

Okay, interesting. So what I think is very interesting, and why I wanted to taste this one after Duckhorn and try it again. You can actually so wait, this was number three? Yeah. Okay. So, no, this was the last one. Oh, this was the last one. Oh, yeah, yeah, I'm sorry. So you can actually taste a lot of similar qualities, I think, between the fruit and kind of like the olive notes and some of the cedar notes on the end. Okay. Um, because this is the same winemaking company, same winemaking group.

SPEAKER_01 19:41

I like this one. Um, so wait, explain this is a duckhorn wine group.

SPEAKER_00 19:45

So, this is a great way. This is, I want to do this because I want to give a tip of look for second labels of wine. Yeah. So this is all of the expertise of the Duckhorn Wine Group, but it's their B plus fruit. Oh. It's not their A-fruit. Still pretty good. And it's their B plus wine Cooperage program. So um, not as much new oak, meant to be drank earlier, and it's $20 less money.

SPEAKER_01 20:06

Okay, but that's a great. So this is a Bridget wine, right? Like I can drink this for my dinner party in a week.

SPEAKER_00 20:11

It's meant to be a very nice bottle. I I love this wine. I think for $30, it's a it's a heck of a deal. I know.

SPEAKER_01 20:17

I should have maybe swapped it.

SPEAKER_00 20:18

It's still Napa Valley fruit, um, still great quality. This is 2018 vintage year instead of 2016. Um, so you're gonna get more of that big bold fruit that you like. Sure. And it's just a really nice value. So that's another tip I'd say if you're looking for something that is a really great wine, um, ask at your wine store, ask um at your restaurant, whatever. Um if you like duck horn, if you like uh, you know, Ingle Nook, if you like some of these bigger wineries, say, hey, is there anything else that winery makes that's maybe a little less money, or does their winemaker have a side project? Because you'll get kind of the same style, but a lot less money.

SPEAKER_01 20:59

Does it say on the front? Okay.

SPEAKER_00 21:01

Oh, Duckhorn Wine Company, yeah. So they have Decoy, they have Pinot Noir programs. Yep. So uh great way to save some money.

SPEAKER_01 21:08

That's a great tip. This one's great. I mean, I'm re-drinking it again. Um to me, worth the $15 difference between the Matthew Fritz here and the postmark.

SPEAKER_00 21:18

And then the last one that you thought was $50. Was $15. Oh, rookie. This is Bueller Vineyards and their Napa Valley. And this one's uh $30.

SPEAKER_01 21:31

Oh, so I've had this one, I think, a while back. Yep.

SPEAKER_00 21:34

We had their white Zinfandel, which is Wait, I'm sorry, this one's $30.

SPEAKER_01 21:38

Oh, the $230. Oh, okay. I wasn't terribly off. No, you were not at all. Okay, great.

SPEAKER_00 21:43

So makes me feel better. This is um definitely the driest of the bunch. Okay, yep. John Bueller makes this. Um, it's uh still very old school traditional Napa winery. Um, very sustainable. Uh, this one's lower alcohol than the others. Oh, wow. This one's more acidity. The way he harped. The grapes. Okay. It's more he's going for more acidity and more kind of traditional fruit freshness. Okay. As opposed to big bold jammy fruit. So you're gonna get more of that kind of green olive and stuff like that on the end than you would get from something that has this is 14.1%, the other at least 14.5, I'm sure.

SPEAKER_01 22:22

So that was the first one I tried. Yep. Yep. Fruity and dry on the end and smooth.

SPEAKER_00 22:27

And Bueller does some single valve uh single vineyard stuff, estate stuff that's more expensive. But this is just their Napa Valley that they buy some of the fruit from other growers. Okay. So again, um if you like Bueller, John is one of the very respected OGs of Napa.

SPEAKER_01 22:42

Um a good guy to buy wine from.

SPEAKER_00 22:45

Yeah, good guy. It's a family winery, can very committed to sustainability, which I love. Um look for his Napa Valley instead of his estate.

SPEAKER_01 22:54

Oh, and you can save some money. Yeah. Yep. So these, I mean the $30, here's what I've learned. The $30 bottles were my favorite. Um I would drink any of these again, but honestly, I think the $50 one I chose is my, or I chose this as my least favorite, but uh you can spend $30, I think be still impressive at a dinner party. Um, you know, that you have spent more than $12 on your bottle of wine or $15.

SPEAKER_00 23:15

And I'll tell you right now, as someone that buys a lot of wine, drinks a lot of wine, tries a lot of wine, the best things are really happening at the $30 price point in terms of price to value.

SPEAKER_01 23:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 23:24

Um the $10 price point is getting kind of low quality. Um California, the $15 price point, you'll get a good wine, but you used to be able to buy that for $10. Um, $30 used to be a price point where people didn't really make great wine. Um, but now there's some really great bottles at that price point that I would say spend that instead of $40 or $50 in all honesty. Yeah. In most cases.

SPEAKER_01 23:47

And you guys should know, I knew nothing about this. So we are friends, we work together, we we did not discuss any of this. And I'm genuinely have learned a couple things even about my own wine taste by just sitting here having a normal conversation about it. Nick will get lost in telling me about vineyards and things that like are great, but not necessarily helpful to me, honestly. Yeah, so this to me, they do matter, but this to me is so helpful to know I can bring a bottle of $30 wine over to my friends. We can have it with a really great steak.

SPEAKER_00 24:15

Cheer in laws, they'll love it.

SPEAKER_01 24:16

Cheer my in-laws, and I can have it and enjoy it with a really great steak. And I know now what I don't love a lot of tannins on the back end of my wine.

SPEAKER_00 24:22

So can you tell the difference between a $15 and a $50 bottle of wine?

SPEAKER_01 24:27

Um, $15 and $50, no. Not in retrospect, sure. You can tell a difference between $30 and $15 more than I could $50 and $15.

SPEAKER_00 24:38

And the $50 bottle will start showing more as it ages and more as you have it open. Like if we taste this again an hour, it's gonna be a different experience. Yeah. But it's a wine made for a different occasion.

SPEAKER_01 24:49

It is, and I think that's the thing to know right now is you don't have to buy the most expensive bottle to be the most impressive.

SPEAKER_00 24:55

All right, so that's what we have for you today. We hope you enjoyed watching. We hope you learned something. We have all these wines for sale at Lake Shinema Country Meets if you're interested in trying them for yourself. They're also available online from the producers and at a lot of different stores. Um, so I highly recommend this as a fun activity with your friends. If you're doing a socially distant thing, brown bag some stuff and say, um, hey, can you tell is this one $10 or $20? Whatever price points you want to do. Um, I wouldn't do $5 wines go.

SPEAKER_01 25:24

Probably not necessary.

SPEAKER_00 25:26

Not if you are an adult. But thank you for watching. This is something we're gonna do every month as part of our Dinner Plus Drinks podcast. We have this on YouTube and on our podcast feed.

SPEAKER_01 25:35

And you can drink with your pinkies up or not, and have fun while you're doing it. Have a little conversation and enjoy a great glass of wine.

SPEAKER_00 25:41

Thanks for watching, guys. We'll see you soon. Thanks.